Tech PC Talk Cant even play Ultimate epic battle simulator!

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    Marc Berry
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    Hi guys

    i just downloaded UEBS for my sons and thought i wouldnt have an issue playing it. however it constantly crashed with the main error saying something about low memory.  then by using windowed, 720p mode and setting all quality settings to Low it played one battle. the second battle crashed the whole computer so i could hear sound but the monitor led went amber indicating no signal.

    the cpu should be fine, i7-2600k at 4ghz

    memory is ‘only’ 8gb, could this be the issue? this was overkill last time i was looking at upgrades a few years back

    my ssd is only, i think, 60gb and only has a couple of gig spare and i am constantly trying to free up space

    the GPU is a radeon 5700.

    motherboard is asus p8p67 i think without opening up the case

    i tried upping the page file to 4096 but not sure this has really helped.

    so,

    1) any ideas if i can get it running with this set up?

    2) if i have to upgrade anything, what would have the most chance of helping?

    3) any other thoughts or suggestions?

    cheers all

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    Have a look here https://steamcommunity.com/app/616560/discussions/0/135514507319729706/ Your old graphics card isn’t going to help either.

    Things have moved on with CPUs too. An i7-2600 is about comparable to a Skylake i3, especially in games https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1682

    Look here http://tinyurl.com/yaflnn9a your system is at or below the minimum specs.

    Increasing the page file size will only make the shortage of disk space worse.

    You’ve reached the limits of Sandybridge I feel. Time for a new one.

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    Have a look here https://steamcommunity.com/app/616560/discussions/0/135514507319729706/ Your old graphics card isn’t going to help either. Things have moved on with CPUs too. An i7-2600 is about comparable to a Skylake i3, especially in games https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1682 Look here http://tinyurl.com/yaflnn9a your system is at or below the minimum specs. Increasing the page file size will only make the shortage of disk space worse. You’ve reached the limits of Sandybridge I feel. Time for a new one.

    cheers dave, thats what i was just finding as i have been googling for a while tonight about it.

    i am loathe to replace all the parts i realize are at the low end, i.e. gpu, memory, ssd as i agree i am now coming up to the time for a full upgrade.

    so, if i cant persuade the wife for a full upgrade, would a larger ssd help? it is the cheapest upgrade, is the closest to being below the minimum standards and should be a fairly straight swap after cloning, or…..

    what full upgrade to go for? we have limited space now where the pc is so i have started to detest the big bulky tower unit and was thinking of a desktop replacement laptop. with the above in mind, any suggestions that wouldnt break the bank but would have reasonable specs? keep in mind that UEBS is about the max gaming stress i think i will be throwing at it (famous last words)

    cheers

    EDIT… i just found large laptops are expensive and dont have the best specs unless spending tons. so, any slim, ideally pre-built towers i could go for?

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    A larger SSD would help your system in general but won’t do much for UEBS.

    UEBS looks like it’s quite a system hog. Apparently each figure has it’s own shadow rendered! I would go with the recommended specs here http://tinyurl.com/yaflnn9a which is a top end i5 or Ryzen 100X. Both are £210+ and the graphics card would be the same price. Yiu can’t do this one on the cheap.

    It’s the old enemy – heat. Powerful kit produces more of it but you do see plenty of MATX and even MITX systems about now, but not slimline. The size of the graphics card would stop that anyway.

    On a small volume case, like the Cooler Master Elite 110, http://tinyurl.com/kdxhooz I would use a Liquid CPU Cooler such as this http://tinyurl.com/y8p6fv7j Even modest cases can deal with radiators these days, e.g. 110 has a mount for a 120mm one at the front. For £40 the Fractal Design Core 1300 Micro ATX Case can support two and longer graphics cards. TBH an MATX case would probably be fine with some decent intake / exhaust fans and a beefed up CPU cooler.

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    A larger SSD would help your system in general but won’t do much for UEBS. UEBS looks like it’s quite a system hog. Apparently each figure has it’s own shadow rendered! I would go with the recommended specs here http://tinyurl.com/yaflnn9a which is a top end i5 or Ryzen 100X. Both are £210+ and the graphics card would be the same price. Yiu can’t do this one on the cheap. It’s the old enemy – heat. Powerful kit produces more of it but you do see plenty of MATX and even MITX systems about now, but not slimline. The size of the graphics card would stop that anyway. On a small volume case, like the Cooler Master Elite 110, http://tinyurl.com/kdxhooz I would use a Liquid CPU Cooler such as this http://tinyurl.com/y8p6fv7j Even modest cases can deal with radiators these days, e.g. 110 has a mount for a 120mm one at the front. For £40 the Fractal Design Core 1300 Micro ATX Case can support two and longer graphics cards. TBH an MATX case would probably be fine with some decent intake / exhaust fans and a beefed up CPU cooler.

    Cheers dave.

    I’ve been out of the pc game for a while now, only dipping my toe in every now and then. With some of your suggestions  above in mind and without spending too much, any suggestions for a full build?

    I can re use some bits I have such as- hdd as data drive, optical drives, fans, possibly my corsair psu but it’s getting on a bit.

    I think the main new bits would be mono, cpu, gpu, ram, ssd, case and poss the psu

    Cheers mate

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    “I think the main new bits would be mono, cpu, gpu, ram, ssd, case and poss the ps”

    You missed out all the upgraded peripherals you will need to go with your new mobo. viz. USB-C to USB-3 hub  and USB-C to HDMI monitor adapters!😋

    Of course if you don’t like using adapters the list of new kit gets even longer.

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    Ive got some buy in from the wife as she said my sons will be using it for school now they will be doing senior school work.

    So I may be able to push the budget to maybe £700 I think that may mean a laptop could fit in the budget if it ticked the boxes I wanted.  Be good if it was a 17inch one if I were to go that route.

    Of course I’m open to a desktop/tower again but prefer a smaller one than I currently have.

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    I would be looking at something like this (E-Buyer):

    ASRock AMD Ryzen AB350M Pro4 AM4 mATX Motherboard 780508 £72.98
    AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 6 Core AM4 CPU/Processor 784314 £209.98
    Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB DDR4 2400MHz Desktop Memory BLS2C4G4D240FSC 736868 £74.99
    WD Blue 250GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD 761161 £78.98
    Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060 WindForce OC 3GB Graphics Card 756319 £198.95
    Corsair VS Series 450 Watt Power Supply 726366 £38.92
    Antec GX-200 USB3 Black Interior Vented Fascia Midi Gaming Case – No Window 706782 £34.40
    Total £709.20

    And £20 for W10 Pro and Office 2016 Pro keys from E-Bay (I buy loads of them, no problems yet).

    An i5-7600K and B250M motherboard based system would cost about the same. Ryzen or i5? Take your pick 😀

    None of this is a recommendation, just somewhere to start researching.

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    I would be looking at something like this (E-Buyer): ASRock AMD Ryzen AB350M Pro4 AM4 mATX Motherboard 780508 £72.98 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 6 Core AM4 CPU/Processor 784314 £209.98 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB DDR4 2400MHz Desktop Memory BLS2C4G4D240FSC 736868 £74.99 WD Blue 250GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD 761161 £78.98 Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060 WindForce OC 3GB Graphics Card 756319 £198.95 Corsair VS Series 450 Watt Power Supply 726366 £38.92 Antec GX-200 USB3 Black Interior Vented Fascia Midi Gaming Case – No Window 706782 £34.40 Total £709.20 And £20 for W10 Pro and Office 2016 Pro keys from E-Bay (I buy loads of them, no problems yet). An i5-7600K and B250M motherboard based system would cost about the same. Ryzen or i5? Take your pick 😀 None of this is a recommendation, just somewhere to start researching.

    hey dave, thanks for the continued help.

    just a few things. i see the ram can be bought in a single 8gb stick and it is actually a few pounds cheaper. i could then install another 8gb at a later date when funds allow. would you agree this would be a good idea or is there a benefit of the 2 x 4gb?

    you havent suggested a cooler for the cpu. any thoughts on that?

    any smaller cases that would work?

    my existing monitor, liyama prolite e2208hds,  doesnt need replacing unless i have to. it has a dvi-d connection. i presume this will still connect to the new mobo you have mentioned above?

    with roughly this budget, any laptop suggestions that would be close to the above specs?

    cheers mate.

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