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  • #41209
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    Face Masks 2RSB
    @bdthree

    I have access to “BASIC FACE MASKS” up untill 8 am tomorrow. Let me emphasisie “Basic”. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272779365177

    50 per pack £17.99

    I have shit loads of hardware shop arround here but this is best I could find. I am not a medical expert so instruct to buy at your peril :)

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  • #41213
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    Face Masks 3Richard
    @sawboman
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    Be careful, those are dust masks and offer little or no virus protection. They may be sold as panaceas by some. Masks my carry another risk, if people become overly bold and think they become invincible. Correct hand washing and avoiding crowded places are wise. Other options might build on that firm base.

    #41217
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    Face Masks 2RSB
    @bdthree
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    They are that Richard, hence buy at your own peril. However for my cat’s sake I’ll be scrubing and having my daily cat fights with them wearing one if I cop for the thing regardless if it can be past on to pet’s or not. It may be fun. “Pussy Cat, I am your father”

    On second thoughts that may sound a little wrong ;)

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    #41218
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    Face Masks 2RSB
    @bdthree
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    But on a serious note. “I can do that”. From what I can make out face masks will do nothing in preventing you catch it, but on the oppisite side it will do much in preventing you pass it on providing you scrub up to. So for those who have had family members who may have had a bad “Cant think of the word” but chest or breathing diffulcties, heart attacks etc…. I would be happy to wear one even if it was sniffles or sneeze arround them. Saying that I do not intend in leaving the house and I wish I had shares in supermarket deliveries.

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    #41219
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    Face Masks 7Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    However good, expensive and effective a mask may be, it does NOT protect the wearer against others. It does the opposite: it protects others from the breath, coughs and sneezes of the wearer. As Richard says, wash hands regularly and avoid crowds. I think the big spread of infections in the UK will come from sports matches. Imagine the effect of just 2 or 3 infected people in some of the big stadiums. They don’t have to be Home supporters, either. If they are away supporters, they will have perhaps travelled by train or coach. The Home fans will travel back to their homes, some by public transport, others in crowds walking the streets. This thing has not even got started.

    75,000 old Trafford. 54,000 Anfield. 60,000 Emirates. 55,000 Man City. 62,000 Tottenham. 66,000 West Ham. To name just a few.

    That is a lot of potential targets for Covid-19.

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    #41220
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    Face Masks 2RSB
    @bdthree
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    @bullstuff2 see above :)

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    #41224
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    Face Masks 7Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    @bullstuff2 see above 🙂

    Yes Lee I was typing my post while you were posting yours mate. I agree with what you say and I will wear masks if necessary to protect others, should I catch this thing. But with my crippled immune system, I don’t think I would survive long anyway.

    That’s not being morbid or fatalistic, just practical. I have thought of every day as a bonus since my pancreatic cancer and prostate battles. I follow my dad’s advice: the secret of life is to keep waking up every morning. Like the guy falling from the roof of a high building, as he passes each storey he says “So far, so good!”🙄😆

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    #41248
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    Face Masks 10Ed P
    @edps
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    Bob, while I agree that the main value of a face mask is to eliminate the wearer as a transmission agent, this NIH study showed that if 80% of people wore N95 masks then flu/measles outbreaks would be stopped dead. (I think that may be an exaggeration as good hand hygiene/goggles would still be required).

    Imo Western Governments tend to ignore such studies as if everyone wore masks Government surveillance of the populace would be stopped dead in its tracks.

    #41253
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    Face Masks 11keith with the teef
    @thinktank
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    lol. Saw a guy wearing 1 @ work. I thought wtf. :)

    #41273
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    Face Masks 7Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    Unless you pay the already expensive (and now super – inflated) price for the masks with valves and filters, the ones that are simply paper or similar material  are useless after breathing through them for a short while. That introduces moisture and allows all bacteria, viruses etc to pass through in either direction. And to breed happily in the warm moisture of your breath.

    Won’t be a problem for Russia though, Putin has found God and is even going to write Him into the Constitution!

    https://tinyurl.com/ruq9jrk

    That should keep Covid-19 at bay!

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    #41295
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    Face Masks 13The VFM Addict
    @thevfmaddict
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    You are right re the paper masks.   As for the vented masks the purpose of the vent is to allow one’s vapour laden exhaled breath to be despatched out of the mask such that the mask doesn’t become slowly drenched.

    If one is going for a vented mask then ignore the ones rated FFP1 they only protect against large particles.   FFP2 and FFP3 do appear capable in studies of reducing the risk of virus being inhaled; although they are not a cast iron guarantee.   Personally I’m happy to take a hit in my wallet for any edge I can get.   Although to be honest I bought most of mine weeks ago once it became obvious to me where this was going and hence before the profiteering went to after burners and sky rocketed the prices.    I did advise in the Coronavirus thread others to do the same at that time.

    I’ve said it before and I suspect I’ll say it again before this is all over; wearing a mask without also wearing goggles is a strategy that has something of the Maginot Line about it.   That is to say a good defence in the south but door wide open to the north (one’s eyes).   Goggles haven’t gone up in price.  You can get them anywhere in most hardware outlets less than £2 and they will fit over spectacles.

    AFAIK Selco stocks of masks are still holding up so if you want FFP2 or FFP3 rated masks I’d try them.   And they have not pumped their prices up either.

    I truly think that as usual men will be slower to act than women and will be late adopters of masks and goggles for fear of looking silly.   It is not uncommon for men to leave it too late in medical matters for such reasons.   That’s why prostate cancer kills more than it should.   Act early and the chances of straying around are far, far better.

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    During the Covid-19 Epidemic I will be wearing a mask and goggles while posting so that if I become infected I won't spread it to you.

    #41297
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    Face Masks 10Ed P
    @edps
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    I cannot comment on every mask, but reputable ones such as 3M have replaceable filters that can service most every duty from N100, through to oily particulates.  They are however in short supply.

    #41301
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    Face Masks 13The VFM Addict
    @thevfmaddict
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    I favour incompetence theory over conspiracy theory every time.

    That said, to me there is growing evidence that HMG might have concluded that ultimately this virus cannot be contained therefore far better to let it run its course as quickly as possible and hence take a short sharp hit to GDP rather than a slow protected one.

    There are no plans to start to restrict large congregations of people.   No plans to close schools leaving open not merely the possibility of the virus spreading in children but, especially in respect of primary schools, huge contagion opportunities during the long parents chats at the school gates at going home time.   The WHO is clear that growth within families has been the main driver of this epidemic.

    I see nothing in HMG’s plans that is convincing that HMG is wholeheartedly seeking to prevent onward transmission.   Their position on masks is totally inconsistent with such claimed strategy.

    All of us here and all medical authorities concur that masks reduce the chances of the infected infecting others.    It this is so then the logical containment strategy is to make mask wearing compulsory.     Indeed, China is of the opinion that compulsory mask wearing which was introduced before the virus had a stranglehold on cities other than Wuhan, where it had exploded before masks became compulsory, has played major part in ensuring spread was less outside Wuhan.

    The basic paper masks are not of a kind that hospital staff will wear.   They need better masks.  Therefore making paper masks compulsory in the community does not jeopardise necessary medical supplies.    Paper masks are so easy to produce we could be producing millions a day in the UK within a week if HMG had the will to do so; and selling them for peanuts.

    I say again the no masks message is so totally inconsistent with HMG’s declared commitment to containment and that it must surely raise doubts about the depth of their containment commitment.

    Note – Because Covid-19 related matters have now been inconveniently split by the initiation of the Masks thread I am posting the above in both the Mask thread and the main Coronavirus – Covid-19 thread.

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    #41317
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    Face Masks 11keith with the teef
    @thinktank
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    Looks like they are Sars Conscious on NFS Heat. Hey, if it can cross from Animals to Humans then no boubt it can cross into cyber space.

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    #41330
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    Face Masks 10Ed P
    @edps
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    Both China and Singapore made mask wearing compulsory (as VFM said to prevent the wearer passing on the disease during the period they are asymptotic). They now seem to be pretty much on top of their outbreaks.  Will our Government of fools learn anything?

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