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    Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2

    As the Header, just experienced a horrible 36 hours or so with my desktop. Setting the scene: SWMBO’s lappy is used in the open plan lounge/diner, my PC is in the second bedroom/workshop/office, 2 rooms and a corridor away. The only outlet for ethernet (it’s built in) is in the lounge and that is where the router sits. After discovering that the old TP-Link router had been damaged in the move here and was inoperable I decided to run powerline adapters off the Plusnet Hub One from the double sockets at the router location, to the double sockets by the desktop PC. I bought what I believed would be best choice: 2x Netgear PL1000 pass through adapters. Everything was OK, getting good results, until yesterday morning, when the desktop PC went TU. Ethernet reported “Unidentified Network. No Internet access.” So I went to WiFi, which worked, but horribly slowly, kept dropping out, and displayed the same message, with another below that which read “Internet Access.” That really confused me!

    I don’t like asking my IT specialist grandson atm for help, because he has just returned to work after working from home and I know his company are flat out, trying to catch up with demand from their industrial and entertainment contracts. So I tried everything from resetting the network (twice) and resetting the adapters to Factory Setting. Then I toured the web for help and advice, using my Gert’s lappy, which was perfectly fine on WiFi: something I should have taken more note of. Then I noticed this afternoon, that the adapter in the desktop was really hot, whilst the one connected to the router was just slightly warm. Looked for Reviews and found it was a rare but noted problem with these adapters. At that point I contacted No.1 gson, who lives above me in his apartment. He spent about 15 minutes talking me through the problem, then said it was a hardware issue. Returned to the adapters for a reset again and – half the apartment lights and sockets went out. The PC adapter was very hot! Disconnected and removed them both, reset the consumer unit trip, then gson said “try the lounge adapter with grandma’s lappy.” It was showing the same fault messages.

    By now I was annoyed with Netgear, then I remembered that I had 2x TP-Link AV500 adapters in my bits boxes. I had ordered these for a mate 2 years ago. Unfortunately he passed away having paid me for them and he lived alone. I offered his son the money but he refused it. So I had put them away and forgotten, took me ages to find them again. Dug them out, installed them, connected ethernet cables and paired them. Now it all works. To my great relief! :yahoo:

    Moral: not everything that is bigger, shinier and more expensive, is as good as less expensive alternatives. And I have a little less hair than yesterday. The offending adapter is on its way tomorrow for testing at gson’s workplace. Pending results, I shall claim a refund.

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  • #58724
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    Dave Rice
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    I gave up on Netgear years ago and am pretty much 100% TP-Link for (non specialist) switches and (home) routers. I have quite a few of the AV600 kits out there now. 2 Ethernet ports and N300 WiFi at the remote end is good enough for most uses and £40 is a bargain.

    #58751
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    Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    I can see how the AV 600 has moved on from the AV 500, but these older 500’s (and gson’s input) have saved my sanity today Dave. Can’t believe the temp difference between two identical Netgear adapters. The one connected to the router was just slightly warm and the one to the desktop just became hotter. The TP Link 500’s are slightly warm, but you can bet I will be keeping a check on them. :scratch: :whistle:

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    #59268
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    Dave Rice
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    Heat has always been the enemy and I used to reckon they’d last just over a year before showing signs of slowing down. When proper WiFi solutions became affordable 5 – 6 years ago I stopped using them but rediscovered them in the last year when a quick and dirty fix was needed.

    I would still prefer to use a proper WiFi solution but at £40 for a pair including WiFi, and are so easy to set up, you can’t ignore them.

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    Tippon
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    Does this mean that they act like a mesh network, so you only see one SSID?

    “One Touch for super range extension – Wi-Fi Clone button simplifies your WiFi configuration and helps build a seamless unified home network with one simple touch”

    I’m still having coverage problems, and until I can get a sparky in after the lockdown, I can’t get extra sockets either, so these sound ideal.

    #59289
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    Dave Rice
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    Yes that’s exactly how they work. It’s not technically a Mesh (a much abused term) but you only have a single SSID. As always it’s the client device that decides when you move from one access point to another but in these situations that’s usually not an issue.

    If you have a router with a WPS button setup is just pressing some buttons in the right order, no larking about with web browsers (but that’s there if you need it IIRC).

    #59306
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    Bob Williams
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    Ryan I have the AV500, the earlier version of the one Dave links to. I have double power socket wall warts at both locations, so no need for an extension power cable, which is a no-no, does not work. All I did was plug in both AV 500’s to the sockets, leaving them switched off initially. Connected the router and first AV 500 by Ethernet, connected the second AV 500 by Ethernet, connected second to the desktop (2 rooms and a corridor away from the router location), switched on both AV’s. Pressed the top button on the first AV, then on the second: this pairs them and secures the network.

    That’s it. I have a Plusnet Hub router which is not the canine’s jewels, but it all works fine for me. The one thing I have read about powerline adapters, is that they may not work with older houses with thick walls and old wiring. Our apartment is only a few years old and has modern, up to date electrics.

    What I have started to do after the Nightmare, is check each one for heat before bootup  and after shutdown. Told you, I am OCD! :wacko:

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    #59309
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    Tippon
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    Thanks both

    I’m going to double check the existing kit tonight and make sure it’s all connected properly, then I might get one of the TP-Link kits :good:

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    The Duke
    @sgb101
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    I have a to link router, iirc I got it two xmas’s ago (maybe 3) and VR900, over the last 6 moths or so it’s started random drop outs, slowing down and the range shortening.

    So the other week (or month), a 3 pack tp link Deco M4 mesh things went in sale for £70 quid.

    Totally forgot about them, we got a new bed last week and I found them. I installed them today, keeping the old router as a modem and the mesh deco kit placed around the house.

    I now have a solid 60meg right across the house, front gate to back gate. I’m ment to get 80/20 but I think low 60s is all I’m likely to get.

    After I installed them, I decided to give talk talk a call, they hung up because if social distancing or something. So went on their site and it was confirmed I was out of contract. I was paying £41pm (probably for about 4 years! So I “upgraded” to the same package for the Price of £26pm.

    For the first time in almost 3 months, I felt like I achieve something. Even if it’s just 180per year. Should of done it years ago.

    Tomorrow I’m gonna go through all my personal outgoings. I can only assume I’m still paying a load of long dead micro payments and probably a few out of contract overly expensive services I can cut down on.

    Though my “switchover” from TT 80/20 to TT 80/20 is due to go through tomorrow, (they said 24h form clicking the link), I can just see TT borking up something as simple as doing nothing. Lol.

     

    #59330
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    Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    Steve I just saved £84 a year by switching to Plusnet mobile. I got a good discount because I have Plusnet broadband. Not a huge amount, but it is better than nothing. What cracks me up is that I was with EE mobile before I changed to Plusnet, and Plusnet take their service from EE!

    You could not make it up. Today I won £2.60 on the Euros. :yahoo: I wouldn’t give up my job, even if I wasn’t well retired. :-)

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    #59708
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    Tippon
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    I have quite a few of the AV600 kits out there now. 2 Ethernet ports and N300 WiFi at the remote end is good enough for most uses and £40 is a bargain.

    Now that everything’s working here again, I’ve just picked up a pair. They’re down to £30 at the moment too :good:

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