Video Editing laptop
October 21, 2020 at 6:18 pm #62842ParticipantPlaneMan@planeman
What with the lovely Welsh winter on the way and the likelihood of lockdowns at various times I’m contemplating buying a new laptop for video editing using OpenShot. I may well Linux it at some point.
My ancient i5 X220 does it bit it’s like trying to drive a sports car up a rutted track that’s 3 feet deep in mud.While being stabbed in both eyes. It’s not fun and damn slow.
I’ve found this, which is above what I want to spend (which is nothing, but the budget was £800). I need a small size now that I’m used to my featherweight ChromeBook. The RAM is maxed out, just as well as it’s soldered on to the motherboard, the NVMe SSD can be upgraded if needed. I doubt that’ll be the case for a while, it’ll be clips around 10 minutes or so while I wrap my head around how to do drive OpenShot.
Any one have any thoughts on my choice?
October 24, 2020 at 11:23 am #62922ParticipantDave Rice@ricedgForumite Points: 9,550
I noticed that U20.10 uses the latest Linux 5.8 kernel that has more Comet Lake tweaks. However Phoronix did their usual top notch testing using a Comet Lake system and the verdict is stick with 20.04.1 LTS.October 24, 2020 at 1:18 pm #62924
I just ran the Geekbench OpenCL test again on my desktop with a Radeon RX480, the score was 41837 !
So it looks like any rendering app that uses the GPU is going to gain a HUGE advantage 😃October 24, 2020 at 2:09 pm #62930
I’ve tried Geekbanch on Mint and the results are random. Ranging from 500 single core/1068 multi to 1116 single/1998 multi.
I have no idea what’s going on but it seems like Geekbench doesn’t like the new rig.
Just about to try some rendering so will report back when that’s done.October 24, 2020 at 2:32 pm #62936
That really is the only way to do it, run the apps you are going to use and see what happens 😁October 24, 2020 at 2:44 pm #62938
WOF, that’s what the plan is.October 24, 2020 at 4:02 pm #62942
WOF, typically hardware rendering on the GPU gives a massive speed-up. Checking out FFMPG (which is used by both Openshot and KDEnlive) there is a hardware rendering option link.
In KDEnlive this is just a check the box configuration option, and if the hardware acceleration is not available it will tell you so. I suspect that Openshot will behave in a similar fashion.
However it would not surprise me if this is not available on a laptop due to cooling constraints.
October 24, 2020 at 4:44 pm #62945
- This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Ed P.
Thanks for that Ed, I had a look.
I doesn’t look like the Cinebench R20 benchmark uses GPU acceleration at all.
My desktop with Core i7 990X and RX480 scores 1604 and the Surface pro with i5 and iris plus graphics gets 1565.October 24, 2020 at 7:42 pm #62960
Spent most of the afternoon trying to gigure out what’s going on with video rendering, kdenlive was showing 5 hours to render the clip.
OpenShot wouldn’t use anything apart from Ogg.
Got fed up and re-installed Mint and started from scratch. Kdenlive rendered it using the 4K H265 preset in 30.64. Considering the file size (less than an eighth of the original, 8GB to 965MB) I’m happy with that.
OpenShot can’t use any hardware acceleration so is SLOW and runs the rig full pelt all the time. It gets toasty.
If I can’t get OpenShot to use hardware acceleration then I’m going to have to wrap my head around kdenlive,it seems to be more powerful than OpenShot but also more confusing, for me anyway.
Geekbench scores were still all over the place.
Head hurts now.October 25, 2020 at 7:35 am #62968
I’m by no means an expert with kdenlive, and I’ll agree it can be as confusing as hell. Rather than confuse you with my own idiosyncrasies I think it best to refer you to The Manual. While you can get away with bumbling around between the project and tools tabs, the one area I find really confusing is adding effects, and I think the page for that section is essential!October 25, 2020 at 10:08 am #62979
Thanks for that Ed.October 27, 2020 at 9:30 pm #63060ParticipantThe Duke@sgb101Forumite Points: 11,721
iPad pro is a great editing Machine . I think the new air is just as good.October 28, 2020 at 7:43 pm #63073Participantkeith with the teef@thinktankForumite Points: 2,983
Some good links lads and useful.
October 28, 2020 at 8:54 pm #63077
- This reply was modified 1 month ago by keith with the teef.
After a few days of messing around I’ve come to some conclusions.
OpenShot does animated titles brilliantly, thanks to Blender. There are some available, maybe 15, and you can tweak them a bit.
KdenLive is more stable and I’m getting my head around how it works. So for now I’m using OpenShot for the titles, rendering them to the resolution I’m going to use on the final video and importing that to KdenLive.
I think I’m doing OK but I’m also aware that my autistic traits are creeping in, 4 hours today before I moved. Ignored the pain from all over my body and was focused on getting a 30 second clip just right. Which maybe 0.005 % of the worlds population would notice.
At some stage I’d like to get my head around Blender so I can make custom titles and animations, can’t cope with that right now.
When I have some spare £ (E2Save owe my a ton, getting it is like trying to get blood out of gravel) I may well invest in some proper Chromakey backgrounds, been messing about with it today and everything need to be so smooth.October 29, 2020 at 6:56 am #63079
I wish I could get my head around Blender! I’m afraid that by beating Blender’s own idiosyncratic modelling path my ingrained habits for using all the mainstream commercial modellers gets in the way.
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