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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 2The VFM Addict
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    Nothing substantial to say yet but I have a very bad feeling that this thread will be needed soon.

    We are long overdue for a very serious viral pandemic and the way China are acting I think its already far worse than they are saying.

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  • #59611
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 3Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    The guy I know is not considering the place going TU Ed, he says they are starting to get their heads above water, mainly because customers are realising that their takeaways are better even though more expensive, than the competition. He has found a less expensive source of good wine and is offering that with his deliveries or takeaways.

    This is how close the pub is to my “Default Location”, I look out of my window, lean out over the balcony and grieve. :cry:

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    #59614
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 5The Duke
    @sgb101
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    @bob, I really couldn’t be bothered with the take away ale stuff. Being in the town centre, and given it’s a  shutdown, not slot of passing trade. Also the large majority of the day drinkers in town are the race horse crown (older peeps), they ain’t walking into town for a crap plastic pint, then walk around town between rounds. The rest of the day drinkers are holiday makers, they obviously arnt about either.

    I do know of a couple of pubs that did try selling take away beers, but that was cash only untill old open stock ran dry.

    We can claim back sealed barrels at cost, and they was selling it cash only, for a couple of reasons. Mostly tax related.

    Though I do know a few pubs that still don’t know if they will be re opening. It will come down to how long the closure will be, and the bigger one is what if any expensive changes will be needed to meet new regs.

    We have a good idea of what will be expected, bit noting is set in stone. So it’s not worth implement ing the small things, if it turns out you can’t afford the big ones. So everyone is in limbo.

    I’ve lost two staff members, but not even bothered thinking about that, as it’s the least on my mind. also I have a feeling to begin with I may only re open Fri/sat/sun to begin with. I just don’t know.

    #59617
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    Obviously Covid-19 is the Devil’s Spawn as those without religion are less  likely to die from Covid-19 even after doing all the usual socio-economic adjustments.  Of course you could take the opposite tack and say that God is punishing all those full of religious cant! :scratch:

    The raw ONS data can be found here,

    The risk of death involving COVID-19 is . . . males and females from the Muslim, Jewish, Hindu and Sikh religious groups are at greater risk of a death involving COVID-19 compared with those identifying as Christian. Among Muslim males, the rate was 2.5 times greater than that for Christian males, while for females it was 1.9 times greater.”

    Those with no religion are about 15% less likely to die than Christians – now I know why I survived February! :yahoo:

    My guess is that religious dietary restriction is the biggest discriminatory factor rather than simple ethnicity. All the badly affected religions have severe dietary restrictions and tend to refrain from consuming shellfish or other foods high in zinc. Those of colour will also tend to have much lower levels of vitamin D. Not having deficiencies in these has been postulated to be a survival factor.

    However next time the Mormons or Spanish Inquisition coming knocking on your door you will have the perfect riposte :yes: .

    #59621
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 7PlaneMan
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     However next time the Mormons or Spanish Inquisition coming knocking on your door you will have the perfect riposte :yes: .

    I already have the perfect riposte, ‘Read the f***ing sign’.

    I have a sign on my door politely telling salespeople, religious types, charity types and survey takers not to bother me.

    #59635
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 3Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    Ed, as a Humanist and an Atheist I should be in the safest camp!

    Nolan, I also had a similar sign on the front door of my former home. Here we live in a securely gated enclosure, so the religious enforcers cannot enter and no one can try to sell us anything. That didn’t stop the Mormons at the old Close though: they kept coming, after we kept telling them, it’s Sheltered Housing and you are supposed to contact the Association landlord for permission. Which they knew would not be given. Eventually we had a meeting and decided that we would call the police and state that we were all Seniors being harassed by these fanatics. Several of us did just that, never expecting actual results, but two cars and four officers came within 20 minutes. After speaking to some of us, they advised the morons Mormons that a Crime Number had been assigned and reported to the local station, then warned the Mormons that they would be arrested if they continued. One of them was up on his soapbox and quoting his right to free speech, at which the Sergeant in charge told him that, as seniors living in Sheltered Housing, we had a right to be left in peace. To calm the waters, I suggested that they could put literature through our letter boxes, providing the literature was recyclable. The Sgt. had to turn away for a grin at that one, but the morons were escorted away and we never saw them again. According to my former neighbour, no literature has ever been delivered.

    I don’t see religious people as a problem: they can all believe what they like, I have Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Christian friends, including the lady who was the vicar of our former village church. I just do not wish them to force their beliefs down my throat: I see that as the cause of much of the ills of the world. I believe in the planet and am heartily sick of the way it is treated, especially by some who are supposedly religious.

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    #59648
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    I’m sure that everyone saw that my post was somewhat tongue in cheek, and that there are obviously other factors coming in to play that make religious gatherings somewhere that diseases fester.

    It would be interesting to include other human activities and see if they had an impact. For example did going to football matches make people more susceptible to catching covid-19? Or are karaoke bars also places that are bad to visit?

    #59651
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    Got your Beer Serving App yet Steve?

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    From your earlier rant I’d guess this is just another case of the Government forgetting to tell those who really matter. They really are an organisational shower – heaven help us when Brexit chaos strikes.

    #59661
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 11Dave Rice
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    They really are blind to small businesses, look at the farce over financial help. I don’t count as I get less then 50% of my earnings from being self employed. That means a 50% cut on an already small amount. One guy I work with went self employed in February, luckily he’s been able to keep working. I could maybe get a loan but I’d have to pay it back, might as well go through it now as later.

    No, it’s all about big business who can afford to get things like apps and who are getting their wage bills paid too! The same people who are using this as an excuse to offload staff and change working conditions – it’s not just British Airways.

    The local bus company are pointing out that a reduction to 1 metre only allows a single extra passenger on their double deck buses (none on single deck) so some routes are going to have to go if financial help stops. So much for a green recovery and the bus service was bad enough as it was.

    It’s all talk and no detail. They pay more attention to polls and surveys than doing the work.

    “The Science” is now well and truly busted as people with an agenda are now saying, “well you can find a scientist to say anything you want”. And we have the Government to thank for that as that’s exactly the drum they’ve been beating to justify a political decision rather than admit to it. Add Cummings into that and there is no trust left any more.

    By September we’ll be back to every man for himself.

    #59666
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 5The Duke
    @sgb101
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    @Ed we looked at these apps, but tbh my day drinkers are a cash only bunch, and my night drinkers all tap cards or phones.

    If the regs state we should have have the option available I opt for one (there is many filling my inbox up), bit I can’t see it being used much. I may be wrong.

    After yesterday’s rant a listened to the Welsh PM’s latest announcement. He basically said pubs are not on his road map for this 3 week period (starting Monday), or the next. (thats literally all he said).

    However them 6 words mean, given pubs need a minimum 2 weeks notice, that’s sits us at Monday the 3rd of april at a min. 4 weeks behind England.

    One thing I’ll praise the Welsh PM for is he hasn’t flip flopped, so you sort of know what’s going on (once your told), bit also you could say a negitve is he is being too causious. All he is doing is letting England be the test subject, let them make the mistakes and follow behind them, criticising them and amending as needed.

    I don’t know if that’s good or bad leadership tbh.

    #59669
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    The Scientists (like Matt Hancock) were only there to blame if things went wrong. All the key decisions such as stopping track, trace and isolate too early were political ones. (They started to run out of testing capacity and tried to make a virtue of it, by only testing people in hospital who pretty obviously had the disease and could be diagnosed with a simple lung ultrasound — :wacko: ).

    All this has been compounded by a Government of second rate Blow Hards with zero organisational ability, and a fire-proof  Political Advisor who fled the capital in a blue funk.

    History will not be kind to this Government.

    [edit] If Wales does go the way you say then the English border pubs will think that the glory days of the 1950s/60s have returned!

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 1Ed P.
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 15JayCeeDee
    @jayceedee
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    History will not be kind to this Government.

     

    I don’t disagree with that statement at all, however if history is written by anybody similar to those people reporting on life at the  moment, the picture won’t be pretty.
    Hopefully the historians recounting the whole woeful tale will either be impartial, or at the very least, objective, which is more than can be said about the current crop ( crap? :yes: ) of journalists.
    The Government is pressurised by the media to do something, or criticised for not doing something, or derided for not doing it sooner. When, when, when will *** happen, isn’t it right you should etc, etc. It’s a no-win situation for the Gov’t but a free for all pot-shot by the media.

    The next big contentious issue will come when a vaccine is sorted out and the BAME population get prioritised over the white population – the fury will come, quite literally, from left, right and centre!!

    #59675
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 11Dave Rice
    @ricedg
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    Perhaps that’s why they’re sitting on the parts of the BAME  report that says what needs to be done?

    If that does happen as you describe at least we will know who all the racists are. And to think a couple of months ago people thought we would emerge a kinder caring society. Never was going to happen.

    #59678
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
    Forumite Points: 15,572

    This Government is sitting on lots of things at the moment – including The Russia Report that shows that the Brexit vote was won with Russian money and Cummings (who apparently spent four years in Russia) appears to be tightly coupled into that can of worms. However they have found the certain way of ensuring that the report comes to nothing by putting incompetent Greyling in charge!

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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 18Mark Turner
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    History will not be kind to this Government.

    I don’t disagree with that statement at all, however if history is written by anybody similar to those people reporting on life at the moment, the picture won’t be pretty. Hopefully the historians recounting the whole woeful tale will either be impartial, or at the very least, objective, which is more than can be said about the current crop ( crap? :yes: ) of journalists. The Government is pressurised by the media to do something, or criticised for not doing something, or derided for not doing it sooner. When, when, when will *** happen, isn’t it right you should etc, etc. It’s a no-win situation for the Gov’t but a free for all pot-shot by the media. The next big contentious issue will come when a vaccine is sorted out and the BAME population get prioritised over the white population – the fury will come, quite literally, from left, right and centre!!

    +1

    #59942
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    I’ll bet Leicester inhabitants are gutted to find out that the rest of England will be partying on Saturday and they have to face two more weeks of lock-down. I hope that the Government and authorities have the sense to realise that they may need to stop people trying to hop over to Rutland etc. as they could cause the dreaded second wave.

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 4 days ago by Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 1Ed P.
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 3Bob Williams
    @bullstuff2
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    Leicestershire is far too close to Lincolnshire for my peace of mind. Lincolnshire county has one of the lowest rates of infection and deaths in England. My area of Louth North & East, has had just 2 deaths, and Louth may be a small town, but the area is surrounded by villages, all of which travel to Louth for shopping. Perhaps the fact that we all follow the social distancing rules, and queue nicely, has something to do with that. Most of us wear masks. And there is a heavy police presence in the town, which was a bit of a shock at first, because officers usually leave Louth Station at this time of year, to deal with misbehaving Grockles at the resorts. Town in normal times, has only the occasional officer, touring the streets by car.

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    #59969
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 6Ed P
    @edps
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    Apparently this ‘Government’ of incompetents and ditherers have known they had some sort of problem in Leicester for two weeks, yet have sat on their hands and even now do not know what they are doing!

    “Mr Hancock said … exact details of which wards in Leicestershire are included in the new lockdown measures will be published “imminently”.

     

    #59992
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 3Bob Williams
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    Ed there is a city map of Leicester on the Beeb website, showing affected areas: –

    https://tinyurl.com/y8q2wnod

    Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer echoed calls for a media briefing, saying the people of Leicester were “crying out for answers to perfectly legitimate questions”.

    Sir Keir, perhaps if the people of Leicester had followed guidance on social distancing and groups, they might not have this problem.

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    #59996
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 3Bob Williams
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    The government guidelines regarding groups in restaurants, are so confusing that the venues have given up trying to explain them to customers. As some of you may have read in my contributions here over time, my family loves to get together at the slightest excuse for ‘a bit of a Do’. This has not happened for so long that several birthdays have gone by without our usual noisy (but fun) celebrations. It keeps us together, reminds us how close we are all are, and how much we love each other. We’re a tight bunch!

    When all this corona virus hassle and associated break up of family life began, we swore with every passing, un-celebrated  birthday, to have one big celebration. Our family Organiser, dear daughter, has now put it all together and we are off to the expensive but very good restaurant that we all enjoyed a couple of years ago. Then No.1 granddaughter pointed out the guidelines which state that not more than 2 households may attend such an event together. Daughter consulted with the venue manager, whose texted advice was that they only required the name, address and mobile number of the person booking the venue. He pointedly did not address the “2 households” factor. So we will have our ‘do’ and enjoy it, should be fine if we can manage to all arrive at the same time. Which, knowing my family, will be difficult…

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    #59999
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    Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19 25RSB
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    Shall we start a new thread for swine flue on its way from China?

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