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- January 30, 2017 at 1:10 pm #2987
@ricedg I believe you have some knowledge about security cams. Before I buy these this aft could you comment on them as I have no clue but they are in my price range. Ill be using them about 5m away from there intended target “Gate”
Cheers
Or if you can sugest something better for the price or cheap comparable cam.
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January 30, 2017 at 3:08 pm #3003Is this price to good to be true, will it be terrible? Comes with 4 cams. I don’t need anything special with fancy tricks. Just want to see who is who where I place the cameras.
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January 30, 2017 at 4:35 pm #3010First the kit it’s analogue – nothing wrong with that per se. The reolution is “better than 720P” but the lens will awful.
This is the sort of kit that comes with generic chinglish software with backdoors etc.
They will probably do all you want though and at 5 metres will be OK.
The Foscam is a step up and you can get the newer version for £62 here http://tinyurl.com/jvcz2od
I would probably go for the Foscam FI9803P http://tinyurl.com/zch6o28 as it has the IR separate from the viewing lens. EDIT – this one isn’t wireless b ut they are available IIRC.
I don’t know what you intend to record on, but if you have a Synology you could use that.
If you went for the Foscam FI9853EP http://tinyurl.com/gtv2yqe it has a built in SD card slot so it can do it’s own recordings, but it’s not wireless.
“Not wireless” just means bringing the ethernet cable back to the network as well as a power supply.
January 30, 2017 at 4:49 pm #3014Ordered this one FI9803P. I don’t plan on recording really, just want to see who is at the gate when the door bell goes so I can decide if its worth my while going to unlock the gate 🙂 Cheers, Dave.
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January 30, 2017 at 4:54 pm #3016It’ll do that easily.
Just realised the first one was wireless and the F19803P isn’t.
It’s just a matter of bring the Ethernet cable back the network and power supply.
If you need cable let me know.
January 31, 2017 at 2:25 am #3035I was going the hard wired route. Am corect in thinking I dont need a cctv sign up if its only facing on my land and can only see my land?
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January 31, 2017 at 7:35 am #3039Here’s the final word from the Govt.
Domestic CCTV: using CCTV systems on your property. http://tinyurl.com/zdl8wtq
3.3 Letting people know about your CCTV system
Ensure that you are transparent to those around you when installing your CCTV system. You can do this by:- informing your neighbour(s) about your system
- putting up a notice informing people that recording is taking place
I went down route 1 but you’re not even recording.
January 31, 2017 at 7:41 am #3040OK, well seeing as its only seeing my property and outside the gate is my property to and taking in the fact that the neighbors have not been home for two months I’ll do nothing for now 🙂
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February 1, 2017 at 1:30 am #3128Ive also been planning ahead. Going to test the cam before i fit it then I will cover the case in black hammerite. I dont want it sticking out like a soar thumb. ?
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February 1, 2017 at 7:25 am #3131You’d be amazed how people just don’t notice.
From a security point of view it’s good that they do stick out so the bad guys can see them.
Avoid the temptation for push notifications until you have motion detection absolutely right.
Which is probably impossible as rain at night will almost certainly be detected as motion.
February 1, 2017 at 8:08 am #3133If you are using Linux I think Malc(?) is a user of Zoneminder and may have some pointers. For Windows I use BlueIris. Both really only come into their own with multiple or Pan/Tilt//Zoom cameras. The Foscam software is otherwise quite adequate if a bit funky to use.
My neighbours actually encouraged me to put up a camera as they thought it would give them some protection. In fact it just encouraged the tealeaves to hit them rather than me! The police like them and ask if I have video of the street they could use, but I have my cameras set up only to record when someone crosses MY boundaries.
February 1, 2017 at 8:12 am #3134I was just going to pipe it through VLC to be honest. :good: I’m still suffering from shock after buy he cables needed. £9 a pop for a pidly wire.
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February 1, 2017 at 8:36 am #3136Are they POE? If so, they are probably doing the same with them, as they did with HDMI – they become popular when needed for the latest popular gadget so they think they can charge what they like. Should have taken Dave up on his offer. 😉
February 1, 2017 at 8:39 am #3137I forgot. I was tired, realised I needed them and want the camera up this weekend so just rushed into it.
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February 1, 2017 at 9:02 am #3140Been there – done that!! :whistle:
February 1, 2017 at 9:28 am #3141If you go here https://www.ispyconnect.com/man.aspx?n=foscam# you can generate the url required for VLC to access the rtsp feed.
Noting special about a POE cable because there is no such thing. The power is carried on the “spare” pairs of an ordinary Ethernet cable.
You have a power injector that does this. One Ethernet lead goes from the injector to the switch. The other one goes to the camera.
Or you can buy a switch that provides the POE.
My DVR provides the power to the cameras directly connected to it. That makes installation so much easier and usually cheaper.
February 1, 2017 at 9:32 am #3144Im lost now. I bought two of these. Are you saying I dont need them? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00M0LUVVU/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item
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February 1, 2017 at 9:49 am #3146OK sorry for the confusion.
I thought this was a PoE camera, it isn’t.
February 1, 2017 at 10:25 am #3147Nothing special about a POE cable because there is no such thing. The power is carried on the “spare” pairs of an ordinary Ethernet cable.
Ooooppsss!! I thought the cable industry might be on a money-making scheme like the gold plated HDMI cables for £50. Teach me to comment on things I don’t know about!!:) …….or maybe it won’t. :scratch:
February 1, 2017 at 4:46 pm #3166I have a Foscam camera situated about 20 metres from the ideal power point and router. As this particular camera is just a 12v setup I chopped the supplied Foscam cable in two (making the end fixtures is hard!), and ran good quality weatherproof ethernet (I only used one end) using a weatherproof ‘chocolate box’ on the weather end piece to hold all the connections and a POE connection terminal). My Foscam does not have native POE so I purchased one of these from Amazon and it works brilliantly in providing both power and Ethernet over one simple bit of cable. The Foscam 12v transformer itself was put into my project spares box as the POE supplied the 12v (options for 5 & 9 too, so be careful selecting the correct voltage)
NOTE this gives a non-standard POE so should only be used with kit that has no POE of itself.
As all the external runs are low volt DC no electrician sign-off is required. The A/C & ethernet internal bit is literally plug & play so again needs no sign-off.
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